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  1. openai-distillation denial in referee exchange · scientificamerican.com · 2025-09 (month) · original ID: src-ci-sciam-secrets · Other public citations of this URL

    openai-distillation denial in referee exchange; h800 main

  2. 545% theoretical · scmp.com · 2025-03-01 (day) · original ID: src-ci-scmp-545-margin · Other public citations of this URL

    545% theoretical; 226.75 nodes×8×h800; $87k→$562k

  3. the real costs and computing power, debated · scmp.com · 2025-01 (month) · original ID: src-ci-scmp-cost-debate · Other public citations of this URL

    2.8m gpu-hr/$5.6m; high-flyer spend trail (¥200m/¥1b)

  4. distillation industry-common · scmp.com · 2025-01-30 (day) · original ID: src-ci-scmp-distillation · Other public citations of this URL

    distillation industry-common; deepseek hasn't admitted

  5. questmobile aug 2025: doubao 157m vs deepseek 143m mau · scmp.com · 2025-09 (month) · original ID: src-ci-scmp-doubao-users · Other public citations of this URL

    questmobile aug 2025: doubao 157m vs deepseek 143m mau

  6. one-year retrospective · scmp.com · 2026-01 (month) · original ID: src-ci-scmp-year-on · Other public citations of this URL

    one-year retrospective; kevin xu quote

  7. o1 26% vs r1 100% comparison · securityweek.com · 2025-02-04 (day) · original ID: src-ci-securityweek-jailbreak · Other public citations of this URL

    o1 26% vs r1 100% comparison

  8. up-to-12x cache-hit hike · en.sedaily.com · 2026-08-14 (day) · original ID: src-ci-sedaily-price-hike · Other public citations of this URL

    up-to-12x cache-hit hike; peak/off-peak split; ipo context

  9. notes essay omits open-weights point · simonwillison.net · 2025-01-29 (day) · original ID: src-ci-simonwillison-amodei · Other public citations of this URL

    notes essay omits open-weights point

  10. v3 dec 2024 → r1 jan 20 → janus jan 28 timeline · sydney.edu.au · 2025-01-29 (day) · original ID: src-ci-sydney-explainer · Other public citations of this URL

    v3 dec 2024 → r1 jan 20 → janus jan 28 timeline

  11. the teardown: $5.576m real but narrow · theteardown.co · 2026 (year) · original ID: src-ci-teardown · Other public citations of this URL

    teardown: $5.576m real-but-narrow; doubao overtook; r2 slipped; v4 trails 3–6 mo

  12. coverage of amodei essay · techcrunch · 2025-01-29 (day) · original ID: src-ci-techcrunch-amodei · Other public citations of this URL

    coverage of amodei essay

  13. coverage of wiz finding · techcrunch · 2025-01-30 (day) · original ID: src-ci-techcrunch-database · Other public citations of this URL

    coverage of wiz finding

  14. hundreds of billions capex pledge · techcrunch · 2025-01-29 (day) · original ID: src-ci-techcrunch-zuck · Other public citations of this URL

    "hundreds of billions" capex pledge

  15. doubao at ¥0.0008/1k tokens; 99.3% cut · techflowpost.com · 2024-05 (month) · original ID: src-ci-techflow-doubao · Other public citations of this URL

    doubao ¥0.0008/1k tokens; 99.3% cut; sector-wide price war

  16. semianalysis figures amplified · techspot.com · 2025-02-03 (day) · original ID: src-ci-techspot-16b · Other public citations of this URL

    semianalysis figures amplified

  17. v3.1's ue8m0 fp8 for domestic chips · theregister.com · 2025-08-22 (day) · original ID: src-ci-theregister-v31 · Other public citations of this URL

    v3.1 ue8m0 fp8 for next-gen domestic chips

  18. deepseek launches v4.1-flash · time.news · 2026-09-10 (day) · original ID: src-ci-timenews-v41 · Other public citations of this URL

    v4.1-flash multimodal; citic for star ipo

  19. the significant price-rise warning · the next web · 2026 (year) · original ID: src-ci-tnw-price-rise · Other public citations of this URL

    the "significant" price-rise warning

  20. ny/va/or/nc state actions · tomsguide.com · 2025-02-17 (day) · original ID: src-ci-tomsguide-bans · Other public citations of this URL

    ny/va/or/nc state actions

  21. customs-documented cases · tomshardware.com · 2025-05-01 (day) · original ID: src-ci-tomshardware-lobsters · Other public citations of this URL

    customs-documented cases

  22. singapore share of nvidia revenue 9%→22% · tomshardware.com · 2025-02 (month) · original ID: src-ci-tomshardware-singapore · Other public citations of this URL

    singapore share of nvidia revenue 9%→22%

  23. v3.2-exp ships day-1 ascend/cann support · tomshardware.com · 2025-09-29 (day) · original ID: src-ci-tomshardware-v32-cann · Other public citations of this URL

    v3.2-exp day-1 ascend/cann/vllm support

  24. the chinese open-weights landscape · turingpost.com · 2025 (year) · original ID: src-ci-turingpost-chinesemodels · Other public citations of this URL

    kimi k2/r1/qwen3/glm-4.5 comparative landscape

  25. deceptive delight/bad likert/crescendo bypasses · origin-unit42.paloaltonetworks.com · 2025-02 (month) · original ID: src-ci-unit42-jailbreak · Other public citations of this URL

    deceptive delight/bad likert/crescendo bypasses

  26. r1 launch-day coverage · venturebeat · 2025-01-20 (day) · original ID: src-ci-venturebeat-r1 · Other public citations of this URL

    r1 launch-day coverage; vendor benchmark claims

  27. openai evidence claim · the verge · 2025-01-29 (day) · original ID: src-ci-verge-distillation · Other public citations of this URL

    openai evidence claim; msft api exfiltration; sacks quote

  28. strengthened our conviction · the verge · 2025-01-29 (day) · original ID: src-ci-verge-zuckerberg · Other public citations of this URL

    "strengthened our conviction"; inference compute

  29. high-flyer on wikipedia · wikipedia · 2026 (year) · original ID: src-ci-wikipedia-highflyer · Other public citations of this URL

    founding feb 2016; fire-flyer i/ii; aum $10b dec 2025

  30. high-flyer→deepseek timeline charted · thewirechina.com · 2025-02-23 (day) · original ID: src-ci-wirechina-highflyer · Other public citations of this URL

    high-flyer→deepseek timeline charted

  31. app-layer vs in-weights censorship layers · wired · 2025-01 (month) · original ID: src-ci-wired-censorship · Other public citations of this URL

    app-layer vs in-weights censorship layers

  32. didnt stop a single one · wired · 2025-01-31 (day) · original ID: src-ci-wired-jailbreak · Other public citations of this URL

    "didn't stop a single one"; sampath quote

  33. wired origin story · nehtus · 2025-01 (month) · original ID: src-ci-wired-made-model · Other public citations of this URL

    wired origin story; liang "never funding, but export control" quote; epoch ai 1/10 compute

  34. open clickhouse · wiz.io · 2025-01-29 (day) · original ID: src-ci-wiz-database · Other public citations of this URL

    open clickhouse; >1m log lines; chat history+keys

  35. second deepseek moment — kimi k2 · xpert.digital · 2025-07-21 (day) · original ID: src-ci-xpert-kimi · Other public citations of this URL

    "second deepseek moment" — kimi k2

  36. post-mortem of the january panics narrative factors · thezvi.substack.com · 2025-05 (month) · original ID: src-ci-zvi-r1-0528 · Other public citations of this URL

    post-mortem of the january panic's "narrative factors"

  37. the first cfo: yan wentao · m.163.com · 2025-09 (month) · original ID: src-hp-163-cfo · Other public citations of this URL

    cfo yan wentao (b.1991, hillhouse); 2009 internship anecdote

  38. high-flyer 2025: +56.55%, >rmb 70b · 21jingji.com · 2026-01-14 (day) · original ID: src-hp-21jingji-hf2025 · Other public citations of this URL

    2025 return 56.55% (#2); >rmb 70b aum; 3/5-yr means

  39. registered address: 汇金国际大厦西1幢1201室 · 21jingji.com · 2025-01-14 (day) · original ID: src-hp-21jingji-office · Other public citations of this URL

    registered address: 汇金国际大厦西1幢1201室

  40. first-ever liang interview · m.36kr.com · 2023-05-24 (day) · original ID: src-hp-36kr-interview1 · Other public citations of this URL

    first-ever liang interview; naming of 深度求索; gpu ladder quote; funding logic

  41. the canonical techno-idealism interview (于丽丽/暗涌) · 36kr.com · 2024-07-17 (day) · original ID: src-hp-36kr-interview2 · Other public citations of this URL

    the canonical "techno-idealism" interview (于丽丽/暗涌)

  42. which countries have banned deepseek and why · aljazeera.com · 2025-02-06 (day) · original ID: src-hp-aljazeera-bans · Other public citations of this URL

    nasa jan-31; australia feb-4; korea ministries

  43. allen's house testimony: the $5.576m math · republicans-science.house.gov · 2025 (year) · original ID: src-hp-allen-testimony · Other public citations of this URL

    csis's allen house testimony: $5.576m math; oct-7-2022 controls; h800 workaround history

  44. anthropics own account: 24k accts/16m exchanges · anthropic · 2026-02-23 (day) · original ID: src-hp-anthropic · Other public citations of this URL

    anthropic's own account: 24k accts/16m exchanges; ds 150k+

  45. texas first state-level ban · associated press · 2025-01-31 (day) · original ID: src-hp-ap-texas · Other public citations of this URL

    texas first state-level ban

  46. the api changelog: v4-pro ga 2026-08-13 · api-docs.deepseek.com · 2026-09 (month) · original ID: src-hp-api-changelog · Other public citations of this URL

    v4-pro ga 8/13/26; vision-exp 8/21/26; v4.1-flash 9/10/26

  47. official app announcement · deepseek.com · 2025-01-15 (day) · original ID: src-hp-app-news · Other public citations of this URL

    official app announcement

  48. state dept official allegation · asiatimes.com · 2025-06-25 (day) · original ID: src-hp-asiatimes · Other public citations of this URL

    state dept official allegation; wang 50k-h100 claim; nvidia "lawfully acquired h800"; v3=2048 h800s

  49. liang wenfeng bio: b.1985, wuchuan, zju · baike.baidu.com · 2026-09 (month) · original ID: src-hp-baidu-liang · Other public citations of this URL

    bio: b.1985 wuchuan; zju; timeline incl. li qiang symposium, huang meeting, hurun

  50. the jacobi-to-high-flyer history · bianews.com · 2025 (year) · original ID: src-hp-bianews-history · Other public citations of this URL

    jacobi 2013; name origins; 80k-capital story; dji's wang tao; aum ladder; 4 partners; donations

  51. accusation coverage · bloomberg · 2026-02-23 (day) · original ID: src-hp-bloomberg-anthropic · Other public citations of this URL

    accusation coverage

  52. liang tops amodei and brockman as richest ai founder · bloomberg · 2026-07-14 (day) · original ID: src-hp-bloomberg-liang-rich · Other public citations of this URL

    $36b; richest ai-model founder

  53. top china quant winds down strategy · bloomberg · 2024-10-21 (day) · original ID: src-hp-bloomberg-neutral · Other public citations of this URL

    >rmb 50b; hedged products to zero

  54. v4 delayed for ascend-tuned stack (yuyuantantian) · bloomberg · 2026-04-26 (day) · original ID: src-hp-bloomberg-v4delay · Other public citations of this URL

    v4 delayed for ascend-tuned stack (yuyuantantian)

  55. feb-2025 valuation-range debate ($1b vs $150b) · bloomberg · 2025-02-10 (day) · original ID: src-hp-bloomberg-wealth-feb · Other public citations of this URL

    feb-2025 valuation-range debate ($1b vs $150b)

  56. nvidia −17%/−$600b single-biggest one-day loss · wayback machine · 2025-01-27 (day) · original ID: src-hp-cbs-nvidia · Other public citations of this URL

    nvidia −17%/−$600b "single-biggest one-day loss"; ives $8b liang assets

  57. the may 2026 round; the fewest-conditions stance · chaincatcher.com · 2026-05-09 (day) · original ID: src-hp-chaincatcher-funding · Other public citations of this URL

    same round; liang's "fewest conditions" stance

  58. registry-derived ownership chain (99% chengen) · champsignal.com · 2026-09 (month) · original ID: src-hp-champsignal · Other public citations of this URL

    registry-derived ownership chain (99% cheng'en)

  59. the anthropic distillation figures · cnbc · 2026-02-24 (day) · original ID: src-hp-cnbc-anthropic · Other public citations of this URL

    minimax 13m / moonshot 3.4m / ds 150k; openai letter earlier in feb

  60. nasa memo verbatim · cnbc · 2025-01-31 (day) · original ID: src-hp-cnbc-nasa · Other public citations of this URL

    nasa memo verbatim; navy email late jan

  61. may-8 round launch · coinlive.com · 2026-05 (month) · original ID: src-hp-coinlive-funding · Other public citations of this URL

    may-8 round launch; liang's rmb 20b; ff1/ff2 cost figures; ~84% control

  62. ~130 ds / ~200 hf staff · the-decoder.com · 2025-03 (month) · original ID: src-hp-decoder-travel · Other public citations of this URL

    ~130 ds / ~200 hf staff; wsj us-travel warning

  63. first public model · github · 2023-11-02 (day) · original ID: src-hp-deepseekcoder-github · Other public citations of this URL

    first public model; 1–33b; 2t tokens

  64. 7b/67b dense llms · github · 2023-11-29 (day) · original ID: src-hp-deepseekllm-github · Other public citations of this URL

    7b/67b dense llms

  65. the deepseek-math repo — grpo · github · 2024-02-05 (day) · original ID: src-hp-deepseekmath-github · Other public citations of this URL

    math-7b (arxiv 2402.03300); grpo; author list

  66. law-firm equity-structure analysis · dehehantong.com · 2025 (year) · original ID: src-hp-dehehantong-equity · Other public citations of this URL

    law-firm equity-structure analysis; 17 jul 2023, rmb 10m, liang >80% via chengpu/cheng'en

  67. ~150 staff; the gold-medal hiring rep · donga.com · 2025-02-11 (day) · original ID: src-hp-donga · Other public citations of this URL

    ~150 staff; gold-medal hiring rep; no kpis/titles; >bytedance pay

  68. chengdu apartment start · europeantech.news · 2025 (year) · original ID: src-hp-europeantech · Other public citations of this URL

    chengdu apartment start; "freelancer till 2013"; ~rmb60bn/$8bn since 2015 launch

  69. fire-flyer ai-hpc paper · arxiv.org · 2024-08 (month) · original ID: src-hp-fireflyer-paper · Other public citations of this URL

    fire-flyer ai-hpc paper; 10k pcie a100; authors "deepseek ai" incl. wenfeng liang

  70. the flashmla repo · github · 2025-02 (month) · original ID: src-hp-flashmla · Other public citations of this URL

    flashmla; v3.2 sparse-kernel updates

  71. the forbes liang profile: $39.8b · forbes · 2026-09 (month) · original ID: src-hp-forbes-liang · Other public citations of this URL

    $39.8b; "$7.4b raised june 2026 at $52b"

  72. jan-27 selloff · fortune · 2025-01-27 (day) · original ID: src-hp-fortune · Other public citations of this URL

    jan-27 selloff; app #1; andreessen quote

  73. alibaba collapse · gate.com · 2026-05-09 (day) · original ID: src-hp-gate-funding · Other public citations of this URL

    alibaba collapse; ~$45b; tencent 20% declined; ic-fund lead possibility; hf 56.55% on 70b

  74. 64 quotes from investor call — purported leak · geopolitechs.org · 2026 (year) · original ID: src-hp-geopolitechs-quotes · Other public citations of this URL

    "64 quotes from investor call" — purported leak; unverified

  75. openai/ft evidence claim · gizmodo.com · 2025-01-29 (day) · original ID: src-hp-gizmodo-distill · Other public citations of this URL

    openai/ft evidence claim; sacks "substantial evidence"; microsoft api flag

  76. corroboration of 10 departures · gogoai.xin · 2026 (year) · original ID: src-hp-gogoai-departures · Other public citations of this URL

    corroboration of 10 departures

  77. 10k a100 stockpile (2023 interview) · gpb.org · 2025-01-28 (day) · original ID: src-hp-gpb-sputnik · Other public citations of this URL

    10k a100 stockpile (2023 interview); 2,000+ h800; export-control window

  78. huang–liang meeting · theguardian.com · 2025-04-17 (day) · original ID: src-hp-guardian-huang · Other public citations of this URL

    huang–liang meeting; house committee letter to nvidia

  79. guos own page: ai researcher in deepseek, july 2023–april 2026 + core-contributor lists · guoday.github.io · 2026-09 (month) · original ID: src-hp-guoday · Other public citations of this URL

    guo's own page: "ai researcher in deepseek, july 2023–april 2026" + core-contributor lists

  80. the hfai blog: the 10k-a100 cluster · high-flyer.cn · 2022 (year) · original ID: src-hp-hfai-blog · Other public citations of this URL

    gtc-2022 blog: 10k-a100 cluster, ≥90% util, 3fs/hfreduce/hfai.nn, 50+ labs, 2.7m gpu-hrs

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