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side quests

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Original credited author: Hraness

AI-drafted at Ben Guo's direct request and credited to Hraness; every claim links to its cataloged source.

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deepseek: side quests

the pursuits around the flagship — the philanthropy, the compute-donation program, the edge model lines, open source week, and the raise.

AI-drafted at Ben Guo's direct request and credited to Hraness; every claim links to its cataloged source.

Canonical page: https://hraness.com/deepseek/side-quests

Original source occurrences

  1. ft: r2 delayed · the-decoder.com · 2025-08 (month) · original ID: src-ci-decoder-ascend · Other public citations of this URL

    ft: r2 delayed; ascend training failed; revert to nvidia

  2. english mirror of the disclosure · gigazine.net · 2025-03-03 (day) · original ID: src-ci-gigazine-545 · Other public citations of this URL

    english mirror of the disclosure

  3. the $74b raise and star ipo prep · hindustantimes.com · 2026-09 (month) · original ID: src-ci-ht-valuation · Other public citations of this URL

    $74b raise; $7.4b; catl/tencent investors; star ipo prep

  4. k2 thinking beats gpt-5 on hle/browsecomp · linkedin · 2025-11-07 (day) · original ID: src-ci-linkedin-kimi · Other public citations of this URL

    k2 thinking beats gpt-5 on hle/browsecomp; huang "nanoseconds behind"

  5. 545% theoretical · scmp.com · 2025-03-01 (day) · original ID: src-ci-scmp-545-margin · Other public citations of this URL

    545% theoretical; 226.75 nodes×8×h800; $87k→$562k

  6. questmobile aug 2025: doubao 157m vs deepseek 143m mau · scmp.com · 2025-09 (month) · original ID: src-ci-scmp-doubao-users · Other public citations of this URL

    questmobile aug 2025: doubao 157m vs deepseek 143m mau

  7. v3 dec 2024 → r1 jan 20 → janus jan 28 timeline · sydney.edu.au · 2025-01-29 (day) · original ID: src-ci-sydney-explainer · Other public citations of this URL

    v3 dec 2024 → r1 jan 20 → janus jan 28 timeline

  8. v3.1's ue8m0 fp8 for domestic chips · theregister.com · 2025-08-22 (day) · original ID: src-ci-theregister-v31 · Other public citations of this URL

    v3.1 ue8m0 fp8 for next-gen domestic chips

  9. v3.2-exp ships day-1 ascend/cann support · tomshardware.com · 2025-09-29 (day) · original ID: src-ci-tomshardware-v32-cann · Other public citations of this URL

    v3.2-exp day-1 ascend/cann/vllm support

  10. second deepseek moment — kimi k2 · xpert.digital · 2025-07-21 (day) · original ID: src-ci-xpert-kimi · Other public citations of this URL

    "second deepseek moment" — kimi k2

  11. high-flyer 2025: +56.55%, >rmb 70b · 21jingji.com · 2026-01-14 (day) · original ID: src-hp-21jingji-hf2025 · Other public citations of this URL

    2025 return 56.55% (#2); >rmb 70b aum; 3/5-yr means

  12. official app announcement · deepseek.com · 2025-01-15 (day) · original ID: src-hp-app-news · Other public citations of this URL

    official app announcement

  13. top china quant winds down strategy · bloomberg · 2024-10-21 (day) · original ID: src-hp-bloomberg-neutral · Other public citations of this URL

    >rmb 50b; hedged products to zero

  14. v4 delayed for ascend-tuned stack (yuyuantantian) · bloomberg · 2026-04-26 (day) · original ID: src-hp-bloomberg-v4delay · Other public citations of this URL

    v4 delayed for ascend-tuned stack (yuyuantantian)

  15. may-8 round launch · coinlive.com · 2026-05 (month) · original ID: src-hp-coinlive-funding · Other public citations of this URL

    may-8 round launch; liang's rmb 20b; ff1/ff2 cost figures; ~84% control

  16. the deepseek-math repo — grpo · github · 2024-02-05 (day) · original ID: src-hp-deepseekmath-github · Other public citations of this URL

    math-7b (arxiv 2402.03300); grpo; author list

  17. the flashmla repo · github · 2025-02 (month) · original ID: src-hp-flashmla · Other public citations of this URL

    flashmla; v3.2 sparse-kernel updates

  18. the hfai blog: the 10k-a100 cluster · high-flyer.cn · 2022 (year) · original ID: src-hp-hfai-blog · Other public citations of this URL

    gtc-2022 blog: 10k-a100 cluster, ≥90% util, 3fs/hfreduce/hfai.nn, 50+ labs, 2.7m gpu-hrs

  19. official timeline 2008–2022 · high-flyer.cn · 2026-09 (month) · original ID: src-hp-highflyer-history · Other public citations of this URL

    official timeline 2008–2022; ff1/ff2 specs+costs; donations; hq address 汇金国际大厦a座14层

  20. fire-flyer ii stats (8tb/s read, feb-2022 stats) · high-flyer.cn · 2026-09 (month) · original ID: src-hp-highflyer-home · Other public citations of this URL

    fire-flyer ii stats (8tb/s read, feb-2022 stats)

  21. r2 status: unannounced, unreleased as of jul-2026 · layer3labs.io · 2026-07 (month) · original ID: src-hp-layer3-r2 · Other public citations of this URL

    r2 status: unannounced, unreleased as of jul-2026; delay reporting recap

  22. math-v2: imo-25 & cmo-24 gold-level · arxiv.org · 2025-11-27 (day) · original ID: src-hp-mathv2 · Other public citations of this URL

    math-v2: imo-25 & cmo-24 gold-level; putnam 118/120

  23. authors: shao, luo, lu, ren, hu, ye, gou, ma, zhang · github · 2025-11-27 (day) · original ID: src-hp-mathv2-github · Other public citations of this URL

    authors: shao, luo, lu, ren, hu, ye, gou, ma, zhang

  24. app released jan 10 on ios+android · mobiledevmemo.com · 2025-01-29 (day) · original ID: src-hp-mobiledevmemo · Other public citations of this URL

    app released jan 10 on ios+android

  25. neutral exit details · m.nbd.com.cn · 2024-10-19 (day) · original ID: src-hp-nbd-neutral · Other public citations of this URL

    neutral exit details; sept-11 earlier notice; <5% aum

  26. open source week index · github · 2025-02-24 (day) · original ID: src-hp-openinfra · Other public citations of this URL

    open source week index; daily drops list

  27. prover-v2 (7b/671b), lean 4 · github · 2025-04-30 (day) · original ID: src-hp-prover-github · Other public citations of this URL

    prover-v2 (7b/671b), lean 4

  28. huawei onsite team · theregister.com · 2025-08-14 (day) · original ID: src-hp-register-huawei · Other public citations of this URL

    huawei onsite team; ascend→inference-only; no fp8

  29. ft: ascend training failure delayed r2 · reuters · 2025-08-14 (day) · original ID: src-hp-reuters-r2ft · Other public citations of this URL

    ft: ascend training failure delayed r2

  30. deepseek-r2 launch stalled; ceo balks · reuters · 2025-06-26 (day) · original ID: src-hp-reuters-r2june · Other public citations of this URL

    r2 stalled; liang unsatisfied; planned may

  31. #1 us app store jan 26 · techcrunch · 2025-01-27 (day) · original ID: src-hp-techcrunch-appstore · Other public citations of this URL

    #1 us app store jan 26; 51 countries (appfigures)

  32. italy/taiwan/navy/texas ban roundup · techcrunch · 2025-02-03 (day) · original ID: src-hp-techcrunch-bans · Other public citations of this URL

    italy/taiwan/navy/texas ban roundup

  33. 17 jul 2023 founding · wikipedia · 2026-09 (month) · original ID: src-hp-wiki-deepseek · Other public citations of this URL

    17 jul 2023 founding; 160 staff; release table; anthropic note

Structured research records

  1. an ordinary little pig · deepseek-quests · 2019– (approximate)

    Original location · source-00a84e4dd575df716128

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      "dates": "2019–",
      "detail": "the whale's quiet philanthropy: rmb 221.38m across 15 charities in 2022 alone, and liang personally giving rmb 138m under the pseudonym 一只平凡的小猪 — 'an ordinary little pig' — disclosed only through high-flyer's own history page.",
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  2. the idle-time compute program · deepseek-quests · 2021– (approximate)

    Original location · source-00a84e4dd575df716128 · source-904e7f9caba419702302 · source-afb542d09f0a4ec6ed22

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      "dates": "2021–",
      "detail": "the idle-time compute program: ~27% of fire-flyer ii's 2022 capacity — over 15m gpu-hours — donated to 50+ university and institute labs on a time-sharing scheduler. the same scheduler that time-shares trading and research workloads gives academia the surplus.",
      "id": "qst-idle-compute",
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  3. the algorithm that escaped · deepseek-quests · 2024-02– (approximate)

    Original location · source-298530916a213e82b46c · source-fed440e6b470b245f2e4 · source-e8230989327d1388040d

    Original structured fields
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      "dates": "2024-02–",
      "detail": "grpo — group relative policy optimization — ships inside deepseekmath in february 2024, becomes the rl engine of r1, and then escapes the lab entirely: kimi k2 thinking and the rest of the open-weights frontier adopted it. the algorithm is now load-bearing infrastructure for the whole field.",
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        "src-ci-linkedin-kimi",
        "src-ci-xpert-kimi"
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      "status": "handed-off",
      "title": "the algorithm that escaped",
      "url": null
    }
  4. prover · deepseek-quests · 2024-04– (approximate)

    Original location · source-ba66c76fcb42fa01110c

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      "dates": "2024-04–",
      "detail": "the theorem-proving line: prover-v1.5, then prover-v2 in april 2025 — a 7b worker plus the 671b teacher for lean 4 proofs.",
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      "status": "continuing",
      "title": "prover",
      "url": "https://github.com/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-Prover-V2"
    }
  5. vl2 and janus · deepseek-quests · 2024-12– (approximate)

    Original location · source-446a0de49e666c3afad0 · source-324be9fc074dbf2ca8bd

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      "dates": "2024-12–",
      "detail": "the vision-language and multimodal line: vl2 in december 2024, then janus — and janus-pro-7b shipped on january 28, 2025, in the middle of the crash week. the line keeps shipping while the flagship consumes the attention.",
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  6. open source week · deepseek-quests · 2025-02-24 – 2025-03-01 (approximate)

    Original location · source-7a9748e200d02457d23f · source-33b6ba38ceadb66b8b98 · source-bca184285a64029f43af · source-77c65b38d1a24a2086fa

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      "dates": "2025-02-24 – 2025-03-01",
      "detail": "open source week: six daily drops — flashmla, deepep, deepgemm, dualpipe, eplb with profile data, then 3fs and smallpond — the fund's internal infrastructure stack released as public goods. closed the week with the theoretical-545%-margin disclosure.",
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        "src-hp-flashmla",
        "src-ci-scmp-545-margin",
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      ],
      "status": "ended",
      "title": "open source week",
      "url": "https://github.com/deepseek-ai/open-infra-index"
    }
  7. the consumer app · deepseek-quests · 2025-01– (approximate)

    Original location · source-f99d11cc91e37d3d6dc1 · source-da084182120e71f10ea5 · source-c5488a0485bbd430b7b9 · source-4e9f90a2f630aa66eaf8 · source-c1b95e75a54f58c4b212

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      "dates": "2025-01–",
      "detail": "the consumer app that briefly beat chatgpt — #1 free app in the us and 51 other countries on january 26 — then became the geopolitical lightning rod: banned from government devices across a dozen countries, yet still ~143m mau in china by august 2025, second to doubao's 157m per questmobile.",
      "id": "qst-app",
      "owner": "company",
      "sourceIds": [
        "src-hp-app-news",
        "src-hp-mobiledevmemo",
        "src-hp-techcrunch-appstore",
        "src-hp-techcrunch-bans",
        "src-ci-scmp-doubao-users"
      ],
      "status": "continuing",
      "title": "the consumer app",
      "url": null
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  8. the ascend hedge · deepseek-quests · 2025-04– (approximate)

    Original location · source-83afeaedd663fa1fd697 · source-2ebfdd7106ca4b48e28d · source-badaf978ae8d380ba07a · source-e3ad300520736dd60743 · source-a17c609e873002bfa73c

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      "dates": "2025-04–",
      "detail": "the domestic-chip stack: after the failed ascend training run (ft, august 2025), the posture settles into nvidia for training and ascend for inference — then v3.1's ue8m0-fp8 'for next-generation domestic chips,' v3.2-exp's day-1 ascend/cann support, and the months of ascend optimization that reportedly delayed v4.",
      "id": "qst-ascend",
      "owner": "company",
      "sourceIds": [
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      "status": "continuing",
      "title": "the ascend hedge",
      "url": null
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  9. r2 · deepseek-quests · 2025-05 – 2026 (approximate)

    Original location · source-11d00c40b93f5574acad · source-2ebfdd7106ca4b48e28d · source-54ed06394dff64e31ee9 · source-3c4d06b451215cd65fb0

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      "dates": "2025-05 – 2026",
      "detail": "the model that never shipped: r2 was reported stalled in june 2025 — liang unsatisfied with performance — then reportedly failed on huawei ascend in august. it was never officially announced and never released; the v-line absorbed the flagship slot.",
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      "status": "ended",
      "title": "r2",
      "url": null
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  10. math-v2 · deepseek-quests · 2025-11– (approximate)

    Original location · source-83745b9a03c1c5e17116 · source-41500b9a68e5088f3bfa

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      "dates": "2025-11–",
      "detail": "self-verifiable theorem proving: math-v2 posts gold-level imo-2025 and cmo-2024 results and 118/120 on putnam 2024 — scaled test-time compute pointed at formal math.",
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      "status": "continuing",
      "title": "math-v2",
      "url": "https://arxiv.org/html/2511.22570"
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  11. the ipo track · deepseek-quests · 2026-05– (approximate)

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      "dates": "2026-05–",
      "detail": "the listing track: alongside the first external round, reporting puts deepseek on star-market ipo preparation — the lab that 'had no financing plans' heading for public markets inside three years.",
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      "owner": "company",
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  12. the fund keeps earning · deepseek-quests · 2024-10– (approximate)

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      "dates": "2024-10–",
      "detail": "the whale keeps trading: the market-neutral exit in october 2024, then +56.55% mean product return in 2025 — #2 among >rmb-10b chinese quant privates on >rmb 70b aum. the patron is still winning while the lab spends.",
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