# deepseek: people

> liang wenfeng and the people around both companies — the zju classmates, the fund's partners, the research bench, and the diaspora.

## the people

- liang wenfeng 梁文锋 (founder): founder and ceo of both companies — the lab and the fund. b. 1985 in mililing village, wuchuan, zhanjiang, guangdong; father a primary-school teacher. entered zhejiang university at 17, meng in information and communication engineering under xiang zhiyu (thesis: low-cost ptz-camera target tracking). the 2008–2015 automated-trading years are his own telling — rmb 80,000 to nine-figure-rmb wealth, self-reported. per the 36kr profiles he still 'reads papers, writes code, and joins group discussions' like any researcher; he is a co-author on the technical papers — wenfeng liang on the fire-flyer ai-hpc paper and the v3/r1 author lists — unusual for a ceo. near-zero public profile until january 20, 2025, when he briefed premier li qiang the same day r1 shipped; february 17 he sat in xi jinping's private-enterprise symposium; april 17 he met jensen huang about compliant chip designs. wealth: hurun debut rmb 33b, march 2025; bloomberg ~$36b in july 2026 — the world's richest ai-model founder. donated rmb 138m to charity in 2022 under the pseudonym 'an ordinary little pig.' (sources: [liang wenfeng bio: b.1985, wuchuan, zju](https://baike.baidu.com/en/item/Liang%20Wenfeng/943430), [thesis title, advisor xiang zhiyu, chengdu years](https://interestingengineering.com/engineers-directory/liang-wenfeng), [1985 / zhanjiang / zju meng 2010](https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q131847088), [the jacobi-to-high-flyer history](https://www.bianews.com/news/details?id=205377), [full-text mirror used for verbatim quotes](https://wallstreetcn.com/articles/3719982), [fire-flyer ai-hpc paper](https://arxiv.org/abs/2408.14158), [jan-20 li qiang symposium](https://www.scmp.com/tech/policy/article/3295662/beijing-meeting-puts-spotlight-chinas-new-face-ai-deepseek-founder-liang-wenfeng), [feb-17 xi symposium confirmed via yuyuantantian](https://www.thestandard.com.hk/finance/article/227878/DeepSeek-founder-confirmed-in-the-meeting-with-Xi), [huang–liang meeting](https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/apr/17/nvidias-ceo-surprise-visit-beijing-restricts-chip-sales-china), [hurun debut rmb 33b](https://technode.com/2025/03/28/deepseek-founder-liang-wenfeng-joins-global-billionaires-list/), [liang tops amodei and brockman as richest ai founder](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-07-14/deepseek-s-liang-tops-amodei-and-brockman-as-richest-ai-founder), [official timeline 2008–2022](https://www.high-flyer.cn/history/))
- xu jin 徐进 (co-founder): co-founder since jacobi (2013). zju chu kochen college mixed-honors class, then a phd in signal and information processing — a main member of the yutu lunar-rover visual-navigation research project. co-founded 每日科技 (now getui/merit interactive, a listed data company), then huawei's shanghai research institute. long the technical director of the quant entities and legal representative of zhejiang jiuzhang; ~7.5% of jiuzhang. (sources: [zju page: xu jin bio — chu kochen mixed class, signal-processing phd, yutu rover nav](https://www.zju.edu.cn/2017/0608/c33485a514822/pagem.htm), [xu jin career (getui founder, huawei)](https://dc.simuwang.com/manager/PL000001PC.html), [jiuzhang equity: liang 85%, zheng and xu 7.5% each](https://finance.sina.com.cn/roll/2026-01-18/doc-inhhswkz2236466.shtml))
- zheng dawei 郑达韡 (co-founder): zju classmate and named partner — a researcher at shanda innovation institute in 2011–12 before jacobi. co-leads the ai side of high-flyer with li huan; ~7.5% of jiuzhang. (sources: [the jacobi-to-high-flyer history](https://www.bianews.com/news/details?id=205377), [site-visit profile w/ xu jin interview: founder/classmate structure, ai/pricing split](https://m.ylcf.com.cn/tzgj/zx/87477.html), [jiuzhang equity: liang 85%, zheng and xu 7.5% each](https://finance.sina.com.cn/roll/2026-01-18/doc-inhhswkz2236466.shtml))
- chen zhe 陈哲 (team): named partner — a former guangfa securities asset-management quant who runs pricing: options and bonds. (sources: [the jacobi-to-high-flyer history](https://www.bianews.com/news/details?id=205377), [site-visit profile w/ xu jin interview: founder/classmate structure, ai/pricing split](https://m.ylcf.com.cn/tzgj/zx/87477.html))
- li huan 李欢 (team): named partner — co-leads the ai side of high-flyer with zheng dawei. (sources: [the jacobi-to-high-flyer history](https://www.bianews.com/news/details?id=205377))
- lu zhengzhe 陆政哲 (team): the current ceo of high-flyer — the fund's public-facing executive while liang runs the lab. ex-china-merchants-system background per the august 2025 rebate-case reporting. (sources: [feb 2016 incorporation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Flyer_(company)), [entity names](https://jamestown.org/deepseeks-background-raises-multiple-concerns/), [xu jin career (getui founder, huawei)](https://dc.simuwang.com/manager/PL000001PC.html), [li cheng/meng pengfei rmb-118m rebate case](https://news.qq.com/rain/a/20250807A09AS300))
- yan wentao 严文韬 (team): the lab's first cfo, hired ~september 2025 — b. 1991, an ex-tencent invest / h capital / hillhouse ventures partner whose portfolio included minimax and zhipu. the hire was widely read as fundraising groundwork, seven months before the first external round opened. (sources: [the first cfo: yan wentao](https://m.163.com/dy/article/L6PV3CAP05568W0A.html))
- the researchers (team): the lab runs flat: no titles, no departments, bottom-up staffing, and anyone can call training-cluster gpus without approval; the hiring screen is 'passion and curiosity' plus competition medals, with pay reportedly benchmarked above bytedance offers. the papers name the names: guo daya 郭达雅 (b. 1994, sun yat-sen phd and msra — codebert/graphcodebert — core contributor to coder, math, prover, v2, coder-v2, v3, and r1, and co-creator of grpo, >37k citations); zhihong shao, lead on deepseekmath, the prover line, and math-v2; plus the recurring core across the v2/v3/r1/fire-flyer author lists — damai dai (moe), aixin liu, junxiao song, chengqi deng (infra chief per reporting), peiyi wang, runxin xu, qihao zhu, deli chen, zhenda xie, wangding zeng, xiao bi. no public cto or chief-scientist title exists; release notes and papers are the lab's only consistent public voice. (sources: [full-text mirror used for verbatim quotes](https://wallstreetcn.com/articles/3719982), [~150 staff; the gold-medal hiring rep](https://www.donga.com/news/article/all/20250211/131006164/1), [guos own page: ai researcher in deepseek, july 2023–april 2026 + core-contributor lists](https://guoday.github.io/), [guo profile: sysu phd, msra, codebert](https://ai.techbuzzchina.com/profile/daya-guo), [the deepseek-math repo — grpo](https://github.com/deepseek-ai/deepseek-math/), [authors: shao, luo, lu, ren, hu, ye, gou, ma, zhang](https://github.com/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-Math-V2), [fire-flyer ai-hpc paper](https://arxiv.org/abs/2408.14158), [r1 peer-reviewed](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-09422-z), [letting research reports speak](https://tthmx.com/hangye/90274.html))
- the diaspora (team): the talent-war inversion — the lab famous for raising unknown graduates became the poaching ground once external money arrived. luo fuli, described as a key v3 architect, left for xiaomi's mimo as llm lead; wang bingxuan went to tencent hunyuan; chong ruan became deeproute.ai's chief scientist; wei haoran of the ocr work departed ~february 2026; and guo daya left in april 2026 for bytedance seed as an agent lead. ~10 names on the v4 report's ~300-author list are flagged former employees. (sources: [departures list incl](https://substack.com/@sinocism/note/c-245366529), [v4 report ~300 authors](https://www.newsglobenow.com/new346166.html), [corroboration of 10 departures](https://www.gogoai.xin/article/deepseek-loses-10-key-researchers-as-chinas-ai-talent-war-intensifies), [guos own page: ai researcher in deepseek, july 2023–april 2026 + core-contributor lists](https://guoday.github.io/))

## writings

- 2019-09 — 一名程序员眼里中国量化投资的未来 (talk, liang, golden bull forum): liang's rare public speech at the golden bull forum — 'the future of china's quant investing through a programmer's eyes' — predicting head-concentration of quant aum and multi-strategy superposition, two years before the fund hit its ~rmb 100b peak. [source](https://xueqiu.com/3619239198/132180425)
  > "when a person makes an investment decision, it is an art — it takes feel. when a program makes the decision, it is a science — it has an optimal solution"
  > "a quant has no fund managers — the fund manager is a rack of servers"
- 2023-05-24 — 疯狂的幻方：一家隐形ai巨头的大模型之路 (interview, liang, 36kr / 暗涌): 'crazy high-flyer: an invisible ai giant's llm road' — the first-ever public interview, given to 36kr/暗涌's 于丽丽 weeks after the agi pivot. names 深度求索, discloses the gpu ladder, and explains why vcs were never an option: 'we want to do it, we can do it — that makes us one of the right people.' [source](https://m.36kr.com/p/2272896094586500)
  > "from the earliest single card, to 100 cards in 2015, 1,000 in 2019, then 10,000"
  > "our llm work has nothing directly to do with quant or finance; we built a separate company called deepseek for it"
  > "we have compute and an engineering team — that is half our chips"
  > "clear goal: no verticals, no apps — research and exploration"
- 2024-07-17 — 揭秘deepseek：一个更极致的中国技术理想主义故事 (interview, liang, 36kr / 暗涌): 'a more extreme chinese techno-idealism story' — the canonical text, called one of the most-cited chinese ai texts globally. the cost-plus pricing doctrine, the contributor-not-free-rider argument, the bottom-up org with unbounded cluster access, and the agi timeline: '2, 5 or 10 years — within our lifetimes.' [source](https://www.36kr.com/p/2872793466982535)
  > "we didn't mean to be a catfish; we just accidentally became one"
  > "people say china trails the us by a year or two; the real gap is originality vs. imitation. unless that changes, china can only ever be a follower"
  > "against disruptive technology, closed-source moats are short-lived — our moat is an organization and culture that can innovate"
  > "open source is a cultural act more than a commercial one; giving is an honor"
  > "no short-term financing plan — our problem has never been money, it's the embargo on high-end chips"
  > "no unfathomable geniuses — fresh grads, fourth- and fifth-year phd interns, kids a few years out. no overseas returnees on v2; all homegrown"
- 2024-08 — fire-flyer ai-hpc (document, researchers, arxiv / sc24): the fire-flyer ai-hpc paper — how ~10,000 pcie a100s approximate dgx-a100 performance at ~half the cost and 60% of the energy, with the hfreduce comms library and 3fs filesystem. the ~50-author list is signed 'deepseek ai' and includes wenfeng liang — documentary proof the fund's infrastructure team became the lab. [source](https://arxiv.org/abs/2408.14158)
- 2024-12-26 — deepseek-v3 technical report (document, researchers, arxiv): the deepseek-v3 technical report — 671b/37b-active moe, 14.8t tokens, and the claim that launched a market event: 2.788m h800 gpu-hours ≈ $5.576m, explicitly scoped to the final official pre-training run and excluding prior research and ablations.
- 2025-02-24 — open source week (post, researchers, github): the open-infra-index — open source week's six daily drops: flashmla, deepep, deepgemm, dualpipe, eplb with profile data, then 3fs and smallpond. the fund's internal stack — hfreduce, hfai.nn, the fire-flyer filesystem — published as public goods. [source](https://github.com/deepseek-ai/open-infra-index)
- 2025-09-17 — deepseek-r1 (nature 645:633–638) (document, researchers, nature): guo, yang, zhang et al., 'deepseek-r1' — the first major llm through full peer review. the nature version adds the disclosures the preprint lacked: ~$294k of rl compute atop the base model, and the statement that r1 did not train on openai-generated reasoning examples while conceding the base model ingested web ai-content like all llms. [source](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-09422-z)
- 2025-11-27 — deepseekmath-v2 (document, researchers, arxiv): deepseekmath-v2 — self-verifiable theorem proving at gold-level imo-2025 and cmo-2024, 118/120 on putnam 2024. the proof line running on scaled test-time compute. [source](https://arxiv.org/html/2511.22570)
- 2026 — the '64 quotes' investor-call leak (document, liang, geopolitechs (unverified)): the purported 'investor call' transcript — '64 quotes' circulated on aggregator posts: ~20,000 'h-equivalent' gpus, '12–18 months behind the us,' api priced to recoup hardware in ~10 months, 'we don't really have an organization — we're driven by a vision.' unverified — likely leaked notes from the 2026 fundraising roadshow; cataloged with that flag. [source](https://www.geopolitechs.org/p/deepseek-founder-liang-wenfeng-in)

## controversies

- 2008– — the self-reported origin: the origin story is his own telling — the rmb 80,000 compounding >100% annually into nine-figure-rmb wealth comes from liang's 2015 retelling, relayed by bianews, with no independent verification. the birthdate is '1985' everywhere; the may-22 date is single-source. dji's wang tao reportedly tried to recruit him — reported, not confirmed. reaction: the dossier keeps the story and the flag: the self-made-trader account is load-bearing mythology until a second source exists. (sources: [the jacobi-to-high-flyer history](https://www.bianews.com/news/details?id=205377), [thesis title, advisor xiang zhiyu, chengdu years](https://interestingengineering.com/engineers-directory/liang-wenfeng), [liang wenfeng bio: b.1985, wuchuan, zju](https://baike.baidu.com/en/item/Liang%20Wenfeng/943430))
- 2025-03 — the travel curbs: the information reported that some deepseek staff must surrender passports to high-flyer, that zhejiang officials screen would-be investors, and — per the wsj — that beijing warned top ai founders against us travel. anonymous-sourced reporting throughout; neither company has detailed a response. reaction: documented state proximity is real — the symposiums are confirmed; the degree of directive control is known only through anonymous-sourced reporting. (sources: [the information: passports held by high-flyer](https://www.theverge.com/tech/629946/deepseek-engineers-have-handed-in-their-china-passports), [~130 ds / ~200 hf staff](https://the-decoder.com/chinas-deepseek-reportedly-restricts-employee-travel-amid-ai-security-concerns/), [travel curbs + zhejiang investor screening](https://techcrunch.com/2025/03/14/china-is-reportedly-keeping-deepseek-under-close-watch/))
- 2024–2025 — the rebate scandal: the whale's compliance stain: high-flyer marketing director li cheng was detained in november 2024; reporting in august 2025 detailed a 2018–2023 scheme with a china merchants securities branch manager skimming ~rmb 118m of trading-commission rebates — over rmb 20m to li personally. cms executive gao xiang was investigated in may 2025. reaction: high-flyer's position: individual misconduct the company was unaware of. the case is the first real compliance mark on the patron. (sources: [li cheng/meng pengfei rmb-118m rebate case](https://news.qq.com/rain/a/20250807A09AS300), [case details](https://finance.sina.com.cn/roll/2025-08-11/doc-infkriev5791603.shtml))
- 2025–2026 — the poaching ground: the flat structure's cost: no titles, no departments, unbounded cluster access — and then the poaching began. ~10 v4-report authors now sit at bytedance seed, tencent hunyuan, deeproute, and xiaomi; guo daya's april 2026 exit for seed's agent lead was the headline departure. reaction: read both ways at once: validation of liang's 'we can build the top-50 talent ourselves' claim, and a real cost once external money arrived. (sources: [v4 report ~300 authors](https://www.newsglobenow.com/new346166.html), [departures list incl](https://substack.com/@sinocism/note/c-245366529), [guos own page: ai researcher in deepseek, july 2023–april 2026 + core-contributor lists](https://guoday.github.io/))

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